VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

TittyHeaven · Dec 21, 2024

Gunizz said:
Sorry, what? Are we playing the same game where if you go help Sage, as you promised her, Jill takes it so personally, a sign of God against you?

Isn't it less she decides not going means it's a great personal slight but rather she already has real doubts? And going with her is what changes her mind, alleviates them doubts and strengthens their dynamic? Because she sees another side to the MC regarding his Mom, her opening up about her sister and him been determined to see Jill, they grow closer on that date. Which feels pretty realistic, one good date can be the difference between a ghosting and a relationship starting; sometimes you just blew your chance without even realizing it at the time.

That said how it is structured by DPC is fucking asinine. Mechanically not going does end Jill's route and the player isn't necessarily going to realize that in advance. Especially as Jill seems the type that'd want him to go look after Sage. How important that decision is could've been more clearly signposted or just structured better. You have to to actually gone on the date once to realize why it's important.

TonyMurray · Dec 21, 2024

ZenoMod said:
I have done that, thanks. That's what I meant by "even after one learns how to sort chronologically the search results".
That orders search result by datetime desc, which is useful to find the latest occurences of a word in a thread, for instance.

BUT... if I want to find the F95 thread for a game, here's what I get by searching from F95 homepage:

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While this is what I get searching from Google:

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I know you don't need this, but for anyone who does, when searching for a game and set up chronologically, go to the "last" result, which is actually the first posted. Unless there's a development thread, or it's a too-common name, that should normally show you the game thread, and everything after is is the update requests, mod threads, random recommendations/issues posts, etc.

Lagunavii · Dec 21, 2024

TittyHeaven said:
Isn't it less she decides not going means it's a great personal slight but rather she already has real doubts? And going with her is what changes her mind, alleviates them doubts and strengthens their dynamic? Because she sees another side to the MC regarding his Mom, her opening up about her sister and him been determined to see Jill, they grow closer on that date. Which feels pretty realistic, one good date can be the difference between a ghosting and a relationship starting; sometimes you just blew your chance without even realizing it at the time.

That said how it is structured by DPC is fucking asinine. Mechanically not going does end Jill's route and the player isn't necessarily going to realize that in advance. Especially as Jill seems the type that'd want him to go look after Sage. How important that decision is could've been more clearly signposted or just structured better. You have to to actually gone on the date once to realize why it's important.

Yeah, people seem to forget that Jill was being blackmailed at that point, she had already decided NOT to see the MC at that point, the "date" was going to be her way of saying bye. Obviously as the date goes on Jill PoV changes and she thinks fuck not seeing him again, but the decision to not see MC again was already made and without it she cant see things in another light.

Its a pretty shitty move from DPC here that there's no way of knowing what that choice entails, esp considering its set up that she was walking away on that date anyway. Its like the game pushes you to Sage.

iamcomming · Dec 21, 2024

saynotoNTR said:
AL is fucked up as hell. Saying it won't be as dark as AL doesn't mean anything, honestly. You may not have to choose who lives and who dies in a fire, but that doesn't mean DPC won't kill off any characters.

Maya and Derek's mom won't make it to the end of the game alive. I'm sure other characters won't either. The list of names that could end up dead in a convincing way is extensive:

• Quinn (depending on the path)
• Riona (depending on the path)
• Lily (depending on the path)

• Tommy (caught in the crossfire)
• Buddy (killed by cops, MC or Quinn)
• Vinny (killed by cops, MC or Quinn)

• Neil (accident)
• Stephen (suicide)
• Derek (illness)
• MC's grandfather (illness)
• MC's grandmother (death by natural causes)

The list could go on... The point is: don't expect a bed of roses and rainbows in the next chapters.

if your idea by depending on path is "let Quinn having Rio" or "save Rio from Quinn" than i like it.

ZenoMod · Dec 21, 2024

dontehall2023 said:
I like Lily, but you pay her $$$$ for a BJ at the Prep mansion party.

IIRC if you have a chick or neutral affinity (and maybe some other variables) she gives you that BJ for free.

Ray_D · Dec 21, 2024

saynotoNTR said:
Remember when dalli_x said Quinn was craving for a CHICK MC? Good times? Best times!
Good to see you're still around.

dalli_x is not a very logical source of theories.

Ray_D · Dec 21, 2024

saynotoNTR said:
• Quinn (depending on the path)

I agree.

saynotoNTR said:
• Riona (depending on the path)

I agree.

saynotoNTR said:
• Lily (depending on the path)

I agree.

saynotoNTR said:
• Tommy (caught in the crossfire)

I agree.

saynotoNTR said:
• Buddy (killed by cops, MC or Quinn)

He will probably be killed by the police or quinn, the MC is not that kind of protagonist unless DPC gives him tremendous character development.

saynotoNTR said:
• Vinny (killed by cops, MC or Quinn)

He will probably be killed by the police or quinn, the MC is not that kind of protagonist unless DPC gives him tremendous character development.

saynotoNTR said:
• Neil (accident)

Probably and hopefully it will serve for a real change in the mc if you want him to kill vinny.

saynotoNTR said:
• Stephen (suicide)

saynotoNTR said:
• Derek (illness)

Don't worry bro I will name maya's first son after you, if she doesn't die in the fire.

saynotoNTR said:
• MC's grandfather (illness)

saynotoNTR said:
• MC's grandmother (death by natural causes)

Better Cock Spock · Dec 21, 2024

Mordreut said:
You can end with Jill in a CHICK path having sex with: Sage, Bella, Josy, Maya, Jade, Lily, Camila, Riona, Melanie, Sarah, Quinn, Nora... I call it the asshole CHICK path

You can't fuck Nora on Jill's path, you automatically leave the bar. Same with the Sandy/Nicole threesome.

Maccabbee · Dec 21, 2024

TittyHeaven said:
Isn't it less she decides not going means it's a great personal slight but rather she already has real doubts? And going with her is what changes her mind, alleviates them doubts and strengthens their dynamic? Because she sees another side to the MC regarding his Mom, her opening up about her sister and him been determined to see Jill, they grow closer on that date. Which feels pretty realistic, one good date can be the difference between a ghosting and a relationship starting; sometimes you just blew your chance without even realizing it at the time.

That said how it is structured by DPC is fucking asinine. Mechanically not going does end Jill's route and the player isn't necessarily going to realize that in advance. Especially as Jill seems the type that'd want him to go look after Sage. How important that decision is could've been more clearly signposted or just structured better. You have to to actually gone on the date once to realize why it's important.

That's what saves, rollbacks, and autosaves are for. This is a game, not life, thankfully...

Gunizz · Dec 21, 2024

Bmagada said:
Bella has natural ass. Sage has squat booty. There's a difference.

You missed what I said. Her ass is NOW bigger. An ass cannot grow like that in just a week. It was a joke about how DPC heavily "improves" the characters, sometimes only in one single scene. I don't know if Sage is always going to have a bigger ass than Bella in the future. For example Elena has been modified from what we've seen in the preview.

TittyHeaven said:
That said how it is structured by DPC is fucking asinine. Mechanically not going does end Jill's route and the player isn't necessarily going to realize that in advance. Especially as Jill seems the type that'd want him to go look after Sage. How important that decision is could've been more clearly signposted or just structured better. You have to to actually gone on the date once to realize why it's important.

Lagunavii said:
Its a pretty shitty move from DPC here that there's no way of knowing what that choice entails, esp considering its set up that she was walking away on that date anyway. Its like the game pushes you to Sage.

I don't think DPC made that choice in error, without planning or for excessive simplification. It could be that he wants to send the message that Jill is not so sweet and generous. She does not want MC to help a female friend, despite her invite arriving late, because something about her character makes her do so, and maybe we'll discover her negative attitude later. It looks like DPC gave us a red flag about her.
Otherwise it would be a really shitty plot device, too much. But it would not fit with his style, in my opinion.

Better Cock Spock · Dec 21, 2024

Gunizz said:
You missed what I said. Her ass is NOW bigger. An ass cannot grow like that in just a week. It was a joke about how DPC heavily "improves" the characters, sometimes only in one single scene. I don't know if Sage is always going to have a bigger ass than Bella in the future. For example Elena has been modified from what we've seen in the preview.

It's just a special render, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Not even the first time, just look at Maya's gigantic ass here!

Gunizz said:
I don't think DPC made that choice in error, without planning or for excessive simplification. It could be that he wants to send the message that Jill is not so sweet and generous. She does not want MC to help a female friend, despite her invite arriving late, because something about her character makes her do so, and maybe we'll discover her negative attitude later. It looks like DPC gave us a red flag about her.
Otherwise it would be a really shitty plot device, too much. But it would not fit with his style, in my opinion.

You're really putting a lot of stock into the idea of Jill being jealous that MC chose to help a female friend. If Jill really were that petty, she'd have dumped his ass when Josy and Sage recognized his dick during Tyballs' presentation.

It's just bad timing, he could've been going back home to see his dad or helping at the senior home again, it'd have the same result. But DPC didn't really stick the landing there.

Lagunavii · Dec 21, 2024

Gunizz said:
I don't think DPC made that choice in error, without planning or for excessive simplification. It could be that he wants to send the message that Jill is not so sweet and generous. She does not want MC to help a female friend, despite her invite arriving late, because something about her character makes her do so, and maybe we'll discover her negative attitude later. It looks like DPC gave us a red flag about her.
Otherwise it would be a really shitty plot device, too much. But it would not fit with his style, in my opinion.

Well no, its not that she ends things because you were looking after a sick friend, remember she was always going to end things thanks to Tybalt (that was the whole purpose of the date) but without it she can never fall in love with you and remains blindsighted by the melonfucker.

The options are this:
Go on the date, where Jill is going to tell you she cant see you to have her realise she loves you and stops that train of thought
Dont go on the date, where Jill is going to tell you she cant see you, not give her the chance to fall in love with you and continue the train of thought.

The looking after Sage bit is irrelevant,the MC could have done anything but go to that date and it would result in the same. He could have gone to the strip club, shopping, Back home to his dad. If he doesn't get on that date Jill doesn't realise her feelings

Now I might be remembering this out of order. But do you the player not know that this is what Jills intentions are? If a naive first time player sees this he will actively avoid the Jill date to stop her ending things. Its like the game pushes you towards Sage.

#Edit#

Oh FFS, Better Cock Spock first and with less words.

I know when I'm beaten

Malicre · Dec 21, 2024

Better Cock Spock said:
You can't fuck Nora on Jill's path, you automatically leave the bar. Same with the Sandy/Nicole threesome.

You can totally fuck Nora on Jill's path, at least the first encounter in the bathroom. Can 100% confirm this to be the case. I haven't played in a few updates but my DIK character was on Sage/Jill/Bella paths while playing around with certain other characters like Jade and Nora. That was like the 4th or 5th major update tho.

Better Cock Spock · Dec 21, 2024

Lagunavii said:
Now I might be remembering this out of order. But do you the player not know that this is what Jills intentions are? If a naive first time player sees this he will actively avoid the Jill date to stop her ending things. Its like the game pushes you towards Sage.

#Edit#

Oh FFS, @Better Cock Spock first and with less words.

I know when I'm beaten

It's funny how helping Sage is not essential for her path whatsoever, but it is a nice scene.

Malicre said:
You can totally fuck Nora on Jill's path, at least the first encounter in the bathroom. Can 100% confirm this to be the case. I haven't played in a few updates but my DIK character was on Sage/Jill/Bella paths while playing around with certain other characters like Jade and Nora. That was like the 4th or 5th major update tho.

You must not have gone on the picnic date with Jill then. I suppose you can technically be on her path at that point even if you didn't go, but it won't succeed without it.

MiltonPowers · Dec 21, 2024

Lagunavii said:
Oh FFS, Better Cock Spock first and with less words.

I know when I'm beaten

Good choice to just give up. You cannot beat my Maggot Brother, he is the king.

Lagunavii · Dec 21, 2024

Better Cock Spock said:
It's funny how helping Sage is not essential for her path whatsoever, but it is a nice scene.

That exactly it, its like the game is pushing you towards Sage - Now Id argue that Sage should have ended things for not going to help her, only argue slightly though, its not a hill id die on. But after being let down so much by her ex, it would make sense here. More so than Jill just walking away and ghosting you. the whole thing has been executed poorly

Bill_Buttlicker · Dec 21, 2024

Gunizz said:
You missed what I said. Her ass is NOW bigger. An ass cannot grow like that in just a week.

Of course it can. As this very real, unphotoshopped, non-fake, totally not a scam ad clearly shows.

Lord Bradley · Dec 21, 2024

Ahhhh shit, I'm done for... This is my Normal mode high score. Let's see what I can cook up in easy mode. Elena Level 8008 my ass, fucking cheater!

Better Cock Spock · Dec 21, 2024

Lagunavii said:
That exactly it, its like the game is pushing you towards Sage - Now Id argue that Sage should have ended things for not going to help her, only argue slightly though, its not a hill id die on. But after being let down so much by her ex, it would make sense here. More so than Jill just walking away and ghosting you. the whole thing has been executed poorly
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Tbf they were still just fuck buddies at that point, so "ending things" isn't exactly super devastating.

diolo · Dec 21, 2024

this thread has absurdly 52020 posts since the last update was released ....

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